what we've seen in the state o california is really a grand experiment in voter democracy. it has failed we have the highest tax rates in the nation and yet our school funding is bottom of the barrel and our schools rank bottom in the nation. so this kind of -- it doesn't work. you have to have accountability somewhere and it should be in ou elected officials. >> rick used to live in calirnia. now he lives in new york. is it because of this, rick? >> actually no. it's because of you, david. [ laughter ] >> right. >> i actually agree with victoria on the point that voter democracy has not paid off very well in california. but this is a bit difference. we're taking a very small part of the city budget. the people aren't going to be making decisions on where to buy their water and things like that. they're taking a small part of the budget and saying okay. voters, you decide what we should do with this, if off community project. i think it's good experiment. i like the idea of people getting together and doing something. >> michael saying it's our money for goodness sakes. sho